An Online Story of Jazz in New Orleans
With an introduction by Nat Hentoff
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Featuring the complete text of chapters 1 – 5 from Hear Me Talkin’ To Ya: The Story of Jazz As Told By the Men Who Made It, a 1955 book by Nat Shapiro and Nat Hentoff
(Published with the consent of Nat Hentoff)
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Chapter 3
The kids were poor and they often improvised their instruments as well
as their music.
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Among those featured in Chapter 3:
Mutt Carey |
Baby Dodds |
Kid Ory |
Jelly Roll Morton |
Albert Nicholas |
Bunk Johnson |
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photo George Francois Mugnier
New Orleans children, c. 1890 – 1910 _____ Game Kid Blues , by Jelly Roll Morton |
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DANNY BARKER
It was gay New Orleans, the city of pleasure. For the least significant occasion,
there would be some music. That’s why so many kids in New Orleans took up
music. They heard it all the time. It’s like later kids would idolize Babe
Ruth, and today Willie Mays. Well, in New Orleans, gambling, race horses,
being a pimp, or playing music were the sports. The city didn’t appropriate
any money to give the kids places and equipment to play other sports, so
they turned to what they saw and knew. Or if they were thick in the head,
they’d end up doing stevedore work on the levee in the hot sun.
MUTT CAREY
In New Orleans, all the boys came up the hard way. The musicianship was a
little poor. You see, the average boy tried to learn by himself because there
were either no teachers or they couldn’t afford music lessons.
BABY DODDS
I tried hard to play that tin flute I bought but I finally had to turn it
When I was only fourteen, I had a swelled head, big ideas I’d played since I was a toddler and thought I was good.
But Johnny’s reply was, “Run along, Sonny, and learn
So, at nineteen, I was a pretty competent man, skilled
I learned in the streets, first learning to beat the
Boy, you had to be good on side drum, ’cause if you weren’t GEORGE LEWIS
When I was seven years old, my mother gave me twenty-five cents to go to |
photo by John Steiner
Baby Dodds _____ Just Gone , by King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band
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George Lewis _____ Weary Blues , by George Lewis |
Hogan Jazz Archive, Tulane University
Kid Ory Original Creole Jazz Band, 1921-1922 Baby Dodds, Kid Ory, Mutt Carey, Ed Garland, Wade Whaley _____ High Society , by Kid Ory and His Creole Jazz Band |
KID ORY
My first instrument was a cigar-box banjo that I made myself. When I was
a little better than ten years old, my father bought me a real banjo from
New Orleans. We used to go out on the bridge and practice. When I was thirteen,
I formed a band where I lived then, in Laplace, Louisiana, about twenty-nine
miles from New Orleans. We had a homemade violin, bass viol, guitar, banjo
– played on a chair for drums. We save all the money we made, except
for fifteen cents a piece for carfare, so we could buy good instruments later.
We used to go ’round crowds and hustle.
We saved the money and I decided to give picnics with
beer, salad – fifteen cents to come in and dance. We played the
same numbers we are playing now, like Pallet on the Floor, besides
some waltzes. We used to go down to New Orleans week ends to hear the different
bands that played in the parks. They play a tune once, that’s all I want
to hear so we could play it too. Take two and make one out of it if we couldn’t
get all of it.
Bolden was one I heard and Edward Clem who had four or
five pieces. He played something like Bolden – just passed through sometimes
on an excursion. I used to go down to the railroad station and sometimes
I’d see him on the train passing through.
I talked to Bolden once when I was in New Orleans visiting
at my sister’s house. I had just come from the music store where I bought
a trombone and was trying it out. He was on the sidewalk and heard me playing
and knocked at the door. I answered the door and he said, “Hello, young fellow,
was that you blowing the horn?” I said, “I just bought it.” He said, “It’s
good. I’m looking for a trombone. How would you like to come and play with
me?” I said I’d have to ask my sister, so he asked her and she said I was
too young. I had to go back home. I was about fourteen then, the year before
I moved to New Orleans.
Jelly Roll Morton _____
Sweet Mamas and Sweet Papas , comments by Jelly Roll Morton
Original Jelly Roll Blues , by Jelly Roll Morton |
JELLY ROLL MORTON
My first instrument was made up of two chair-rounds and a tin pan. This
We always had some kinds of musical instruments in the
At the age of seven, I was considered among the best
Of course, folks never had the idea they wanted a musician |
ALBERT NICHOLAS
Sid Bechet and I didn’t have any musical education at the time. We’d just
sit on the curbs and experiment with different melodies. Lorenzo Tio, who
had made a name with John Robichaux, the Olympia, Tuxedo, and other bands,
was my idol then. When I was thirteen, I was taking lessons from him; that
man really knew his music and taught me all the rudiments, and he could teach
as well as he could play. I also took lessons from Big Eye Louis, another
favorite of mine.
I was just like the rest of the kids – wanted to
know all about that new music called jazz. I was a “second-line” kid. That
meant I’d follow the big bands down the streets, and, man, what a thrill
when Tio or George Baquet would let me carry their cases while they played!
I’d walk alongside them feeling just as important as could be.
I played my first street parade with Manuel Perez and
his Onward Band, and that was one of my greatest thrills. All my life I’d
wanted to participate in one of those parades.
BUNK JOHNSON
First thing is where I was born. I was born in dear old New Orleans some
My prof told me that I had a long way to go and a short
The first band I played with was Adam Olivier’s and it |
Bunk Johnson _____ Storyville Blues, by Bunk Johnson |
photo George Francois Mugnier
St. Charles Street and Hotel _____ Some of These Days , by Sophie Tucker
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Clarence Williams _____
Downhearted Blues , by Clarence Williams, with Bessie Smith,
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CLARENCE WILLIAMS
I came to New Orleans in 1906, when I was fourteen years old. It was after
From the time I was six years old in Plaquemine, I had
I shined some shoes when I got to New Orleans and made
But one day the porter that worked at this spaghetti
Pretty soon I was way ahead of all the other piano players |
BUD SCOTT
I was first taken to guitar when four years of age. I had a cousin who had
a guitar, who roomed at our house. When he was through with it at night,
he put it under his bed. My mother went to the store one day, and I was left
alone in the house. I had the idea to go under the bed and get that guitar.
I picked it up, fooled with it a little bit, and started with Home, Sweet
Home, a melody in three chords.
I had forgotten about my mother and everybody else; all
of a sudden she came home and I made a dive to put the guitar under the bed.
She told me this was all right, asked me to play again, and called in one
or two of the neighbors next door. They marveled at it. My father came home
and I played for him. He liked it so well that, without changing his work
clothes, he went to Rampart Street and bought me an old guitar for a dollar
and fifty cents. I was up early the next morning at five A.M. and that was
my start. I still didn’t know anything about music at that time, just what
I heard.
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